A week or so ago, one of the postings was to inform the listers "If you have forebears in the north of the County, you may like to visit this web page: http://www.northlincsmuseumimagearchive.org.uk/frontend.php ."
Not being familiar with what constitutes the "north of the county," I sent off an inquiry (off list) to Rex who posted the link. As I'm about to click send, I added my mail list "signature" to the bottom. I almost forgot to add it, too!
As you can see in the image above, my mail list "signature" contains surnames and the locations [in] which I'm researching; my blog address; Lincolnshire Family History Society (LFHS) member number; and a link to the Porteous DNA Surname Project. Simple, direct, and most helpful in advancing my research -- if someone actually takes the time to look at it as Rex did.
Who would have thought a simple message asking what was meant by "north of the County" would be so rewarding. I guess one could say the genealogy gods were at it again; they made me add the signature at the last minute. Soon I received an unexpected surprise to go with my awaited answer.
Rex's email enlightened me with a brief geography lesson, a little history lesson and a couple surprises. He wrote:
Rex's email enlightened me with a brief geography lesson, a little history lesson and a couple surprises. He wrote:
The county used to be all "Lincolnshire", the second largest county in the British Isles. Then the politicians decided to cut off the northern section and link it to a part of Yorkshire, and call it 'HUMBERSIDE'.
That was hated all round, and in 1992, the Lincolnshire element was returned, but again political influence re-named it to "North Lincolnshire" ... and "North-east Lincolnshire" which is centred on Grimsby.
I will send you a copy of an old Lincolnshire map which might interest you..... but I do have a lot of Lincolnshire data for the northern half of the County particularly.
Your email interested me. I help several people with computer maintenance and sort out problems, and recently was asked by a Messingham resident to help him start computing from scratch, and to use a family tree program. I spotted a name which I knew would be a good start, because it would be around in smallish numbers - unlike the Johnsons in thousands. The name was VAMPLEW.In a coupe of days we took the family back to the first Vamplew in the British Isles - Isaac Vamplew the Hugeunot refugee who came to England in the mid 1600s. All the Vamplews we know about descend from Isaac and his son Peter, baptised in the Huguenot church at Sandtoft.
....So, you see, I know your names!!If you get stuck, tell me a name/date/village and I will see what I can sort out.Regards, Rex
In addition to the Vamplew name, he has PATCHETTs in his line, and went to school with a friend who is a PORTAS! It is truly wonderful hearing from someone like Rex who is willing to go the "extra mile" to help as he stated at the end of the e-mail.
I promptly replied to Rex with some information on my Vamplew lineage, that is, the furthest I have gotten with proof: "My Vamplews can be traced back to Gayton Le Marsh 1719 marriage of James Vamplew and Elizabeth DALES. I'm sure they are connected to Isaac because they had a first son Isaac... " Families in Lincolnshire have been very good about following the naming practices i.e. first son is named after the father's father; second after the mother's father...and the first daughter is after the mother's mother; second daughter after father's mother... this usage is a pretty good indication of ascendancy in most families.
Of course I gave Rex my blog's url and told him where he could find a couple stories about my Vamplews and Patchetts. Click on any of the links for VAMPLEW in the keywords to the right of this posting and it will take you to more information.
To make a long story shortened...I asked Rex to give his Vamplew contact my email address and ask him to contact me. I really wanted to see if I could help him, too.
I soon got an email from Laurence with a short rundown on his lineage and what all Rex had helped him with. He is connected to the VAMPLEWs through a female side. I was so excited as I read his email message, because now I have the missing link back to the first Vamplew -- Isaac. I will follow up on that lead. As I read, part of his email stuck out like a sore thumb! Hey! Those are my family names! I have bolded that part in the paragraph below:
I've been researching the VAMPLEW family and the PORTAS family of Lincolnshire for almost 20 years. Although I have focussed on the Portas name and not so much on the Vamplew name, I do have many notes, images, and much information I've accumulated on them over the years. You can see the green type in the paragraph above (surname to find) -- information neither Rex nor Laurence found to that point. It took me a long time to find her name, too. I do have it in my files now and was happy to send him that little gift. Jacob Vamplew married Elizabeth ENGLAND.
I wish I could supply him with the name of the Mary Ann who married John. I may find it in my notes from all my hunting and gathering at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City.
I stressed to Laurence to "trust but verify" for himself everything I give him, hoping if he finds I am wrong, he will tell me and I can correct it. It is important to me to have accurate information with the source citations also, but sometimes I find my early research is without and with that I do tell my contact to use it as a guide. Speculation also takes into account some iffy information and I don't like handing that out without stressing it as such.
It has been a nice couple weeks learning more about the Vamplews. As Laurence gets more acquainted with research and the computer and all its resources, I hope to introduce him to several other Vamplew cousins living here in USA, Canada, and across the pond in England. Such fun getting to know Laurence, too.
My cousins list is growing with a little help from networking and the genealogy gods with a sprinkling of serendipity!
I promptly replied to Rex with some information on my Vamplew lineage, that is, the furthest I have gotten with proof: "My Vamplews can be traced back to Gayton Le Marsh 1719 marriage of James Vamplew and Elizabeth DALES. I'm sure they are connected to Isaac because they had a first son Isaac... " Families in Lincolnshire have been very good about following the naming practices i.e. first son is named after the father's father; second after the mother's father...and the first daughter is after the mother's mother; second daughter after father's mother... this usage is a pretty good indication of ascendancy in most families.
Of course I gave Rex my blog's url and told him where he could find a couple stories about my Vamplews and Patchetts. Click on any of the links for VAMPLEW in the keywords to the right of this posting and it will take you to more information.
To make a long story shortened...I asked Rex to give his Vamplew contact my email address and ask him to contact me. I really wanted to see if I could help him, too.
I soon got an email from Laurence with a short rundown on his lineage and what all Rex had helped him with. He is connected to the VAMPLEWs through a female side. I was so excited as I read his email message, because now I have the missing link back to the first Vamplew -- Isaac. I will follow up on that lead. As I read, part of his email stuck out like a sore thumb! Hey! Those are my family names! I have bolded that part in the paragraph below:
"Isaac Vamplew married Jean Duvertier in1665 (it is not known yet if this marriage was in Sandtoft or France in 1666 they gave birth to Piere Vamplew at Sandtoft who in turn gave birth to Peter 1690/1695 ( have no marriage detail as yet) from peter came James Vamplew who married Elizabeth Dales who died in 1725 more research is required on James's 1st and 2nd marriage James had a son called Isaac who married Ann Cuthbert in 1746 on this direct line came Jacob Vamplew born in1750 at Muckton nr. Louth and only a few miles from Gayton le Marsh. Jacob married Elizabeth (surname to find) then came James in 1790 and was born at Kirkby upon Bain also in the Louth district and married a Mary Dixon (more details to find on her) they produced a son called John born1829 at Skidbrooke also in the Louth district Married Mary Ann ????....Gayton le Marsh does come up a few times during my research but as yet have not put this on file but I shall be happy to help here. incidently Gayton le Marsh is a very pretty village with a lovely old Church"This triggered a nice round of emails. It is great he has Rex to help him through all that is available to him online. Rex is one of those very knowledgable people who monitor the list and is always there to help.
I've been researching the VAMPLEW family and the PORTAS family of Lincolnshire for almost 20 years. Although I have focussed on the Portas name and not so much on the Vamplew name, I do have many notes, images, and much information I've accumulated on them over the years. You can see the green type in the paragraph above (surname to find) -- information neither Rex nor Laurence found to that point. It took me a long time to find her name, too. I do have it in my files now and was happy to send him that little gift. Jacob Vamplew married Elizabeth ENGLAND.
I wish I could supply him with the name of the Mary Ann who married John. I may find it in my notes from all my hunting and gathering at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City.
I stressed to Laurence to "trust but verify" for himself everything I give him, hoping if he finds I am wrong, he will tell me and I can correct it. It is important to me to have accurate information with the source citations also, but sometimes I find my early research is without and with that I do tell my contact to use it as a guide. Speculation also takes into account some iffy information and I don't like handing that out without stressing it as such.
It has been a nice couple weeks learning more about the Vamplews. As Laurence gets more acquainted with research and the computer and all its resources, I hope to introduce him to several other Vamplew cousins living here in USA, Canada, and across the pond in England. Such fun getting to know Laurence, too.
My cousins list is growing with a little help from networking and the genealogy gods with a sprinkling of serendipity!
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